SH-201 Filter Cutoff Mod Question

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Robonaut
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SH-201 Filter Cutoff Mod Question

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I was demoing a SH-201 at the store the other day and I couldn't seem to find a way to use the mod wheel or pitch bend lever to control the filter's cutoff frequency.

I know that you can route the LFO to the filter and control the amount of modulation using the mod wheel, but that's not quite what I want to do. What I want is to use the mod wheel or pitch bend lever to directly control the cutoff--not add cyclic modulation.

Is it possible to do this on the SH-201? If so, how?
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Yes, it's possible. From the manual:

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Thanks--but did you actually try this or are you just going by the manual?

I ask because, if you look on Page 18 of the manual, where it talks about the modulation lever, it seems to imply that LFO2 is always hard-wired to the modulation lever. So, the controller assign function that you refer to seems to just determine where the modulation from LFO2 is routed.
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I am sorry but I have no SH-201 around (played with it for a few days), but I think I heard several presets in it that have just the filter cutoff on the lever.
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Re: SH-201 Filter Cutoff Mod Question

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Hello!

I had an SH-201, and this was my problem also. As I can tell from my experience, you can only use cyclic change with the modulation lever, nothing more.
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A bug perhaps? You should report this to your local Roland distributor.
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It's no bug... Just a lack of features.
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So you mean the manual talks about the modulation lever adjusting the LFO depth for those parameters, not the parameters themselves? Anyway, I think D-beam is just great for that. I had doubts about it's usability, but it's been about 3 years since I changed my opinion - it's very cool.
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Re: SH-201 Filter Cutoff Mod Question

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There is a simple fix.

The main problem: when you set the mod wheel to control the filter it controls the depth of LFO 2.

Solution: Set the shape of the LFO to square, activate temp sync, lower the Rate all the way to the bottom (7:00 o clock), and set the Depth to 0 (12:00 o clock).

Now when you use the mod wheel it's like using the Cutoff.

Problems with this solution: it makes you lose one LFO. And it doesn't let you do negative values (controlling the Cutoff downwards) I think unless you set the Cutoff to max.
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As Artemiy suggested, the D-BEAM is great for that. Ive owned an sh201 for about two weeks now its great for modulating paramaters- I dont even both with the mod wheel anymore.

To assign the D-BEAM to any parameter, just hold the 'FILTER/ASSIGN' button, then tweak whatever knob you want to control and thats its, start waving away.

I think its more expressive than using the mod wheel, and it adds a cool visual element to a performance. And mainly, its alot of fun to mess about with. Go D-BEAM!
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