Mystic38 wrote:Korg has the SV1 which serves no purpose other than a stage performance board....
Yes, with 3 different sounds and no split possibilities.
Mystic38 wrote:Workstations required WORK.. Performance keyboards are simpler to setup and use and, particularly in the case of the Kronos, do not require a doctoral thesis or 5 years of study to get the best out of them..
Mystic38, seriously, you don't need to post here every nonsense that comes out of your head. The Kronos has basically the same structure as a M1. Unlike some other companies (especially Roland), Korg was always very consistent with their OS. Of course, working with some of the VA models or with the FM synthesis requires some knowledge about how this synthesis functions, but nobody forces you to do deep programming if you don't want to. Just use the sounds as they are. If that's to complicated for you, try playing something else. A banjo or a flute. There are options.
Mystic38 wrote:If you wish to muck about menu diving for months on end, by all means get a Kronos.. The JP80 is for folks to go out and play...This is a big deal to folks who want to play, rather than get enamored with the technology for it's own sake..
Again, stop this crappy posts you make. It's so clear that you absolutely have no clue how people play live, how they perform, what some of them need and how they build their live setups on a keyboard.
The JP80 is not a stage piano for gods sake. It's a synthesizer and it has a complex structure, starting with a registration, going over with percussion, live set 1, live set 2, solo and ending somewhere at the tone level which again consists of three partials.
Do you really think that people will buy a JP80 just to play some preprogrammed patches? If that's the case, Roland should have put a small tiny and cheap display on that thing and make it at least a little cheaper, instead of using a more costly color touch display. What is that good for if you think that people will put the JP80 right as it is on the stage without further programming and accommodating to their own needs.
Mystic38 wrote:
Be objective..Wait until you play the JP80 then come back and say why you think it sounds like poop :)
Since you don't read my posts or at least are unable to understand them, I'll gladly repeat some points for you:
I'm not defending the Kronos particularly here. I'm just saying that there is not such a big difference from a live performing aspect that those two keyboards couldn't be compared. Also, I never said that I don't like how the JP80 sounds. It is just, that unlike you, I'm not a fanboy and I try to see the bigger point on every keyboard.
If you don't understand what I mean, please, be so kind and try to explain to me on a general level, how to split five different patches on the JP80? The structure of the keyboard is known, so you should be able to answer me. Some here say that the JP80 is for the professional and not for some bedroom studio kiddies, you on the other side think that it doesn't need a doctoral thesis (unlike the Kronos), now tell a professional who is unable to learn to use a WORKstation, how to make a split on the JP80 with five different patches.
Let's just see if that's something so easy that even idiots will understand it, or if it will require some menu diving, just like on the Kronos.