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Which sax is this?

Postby tcastlejr » 22:58, 4 October 2017

So I was surfing around on youtube trying to listen to some songs made by the fa series boards. I came across a video that I thought the sax sounded pretty good. Now, he says its a supernatural sound but, as far as I know and can read, the fa doesn't have supernatural sax's. Here is the video if you want to have a listen.

I'm thinking that he downloaded this from Axial in an EXP or patch. Does anyone know which exp or patch would have this sound (I understand you don't know for sure which it is...)?? Or which one has any great sounding saxes?

As a side note, I'm beginning to wonder if my style of music is conducive to this workstation... Seems a LOT of people like rap and EDM with this machine... I'm more a traditional music kinda guy. The song he plays is a great example but I like acoustic sounds A LOT. Guitars, steel guitars (can't find one at all), mandolin, fiddles and violins. I play southern gospel music (think country-ish if you don't know what that is). Lots of piano, bass, acoustic rhythm guitars etc.

Anyhoo... I look forward to any help. Thanks

Tom
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby BlakeL50 » 05:56, 5 October 2017

This piano has all of the types of sounds you mentioned. Some of them are hidden away so you can't find them simply with the quick navigation buttons.

Highlight the name of the part/instrument you want to change and press enter. It'll open a menu and you can navigate the sounds much much more easily. I didn't know there were pop fm pianos for two years of owning this thing lol.

You will find your mandolin under plucked/stroke. Your acoustic guitars will be under Ac. Guitar which has supernatural as well as pcms tones. Your Fiddle and Violin are under Solo Strings.

There are also the expansion packs but I don't know which one I would recommend, maybe the strings collection?
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby BlakeL50 » 06:14, 5 October 2017

Sorry forgot the first part of your question. You can use the same menu to navigate to Sax, there are 26 presets, so far 0622:XV DynoTenor sounds pretty close, either that or the Alto sax?

Edit just to mention the sax aren't super natural, they are PCMS which honestly I tend to prefer to the supernatural tones.
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby Paul99 » 12:33, 5 October 2017

I play in a straight rock 'n roll band. I use acoustic piano, electric piano, several organs, brass and one sax. The sax is from EXP02 called 0233:Cool Sax. I think it sounds great.

But I get your point: the FA has a lot of "modern" sounds (about 500 monophonic lead sounds which I would
never use), so if you don't look closely you might get the idea it is a "modern" music peace of equipment. I can assure you: it is not! It just has all the sounds you can imagine. But you have to experiment! Download the expansion packs. There are for piano, string, brass etc. You also have to consider that the FA sounds brilliant together with other musicians. I don't think the FA will be bought by a real piano player! It does not well as a solo instrument. It is a"social" instrument in the way it needs other musicians to play well.

So remember: the FA is not a great solo piano, it is not a great solo organ, it is not a great string or brass machine, it is not a great bass, it is not a great guitar and it is not a great vocalist. It is all in one, when used wisely together with other musicians. And consider the incredible low price for all this! When you want more, you just need to buy dedicated instruments for all the sounds you want. It sounds better, but you also pay a lot more plus the more weight you have to carry!
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby Joe P » 20:06, 5 October 2017

Tcastle,

Paul is right in many respects. I have used mine as solo piano (cocktail jazz), musical pit orchestra (strings, a lot of French horn, acoustic bass, symphonic sounds, horn section etc. etc. ) and mostly in a rock band context with Pink Floyd specialty (Wurlitzer, vocal chorus, synthesizers, clavs), and also pop duo with splits using left hand bass.

It is so tweakable and so easily tweaked, that you should be able to do just about anything you want.

In the pit, we also had real strings. In that environment, they were indistinguishable from the FA08 to the point where I thought I was inadvertently triggering the FA strings during parts where I was either not playing or playing other sounds. And I am only playing through a Mackie Thump12A!

Good luck!
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby stevel » 21:40, 5 October 2017

tcastlejr wrote:
As a side note, I'm beginning to wonder if my style of music is conducive to this workstation... Seems a LOT of people like rap and EDM with this machine... I'm more a traditional music kinda guy. The song he plays is a great example but I like acoustic sounds A LOT. Guitars, steel guitars (can't find one at all), mandolin, fiddles and violins. I play southern gospel music (think country-ish if you don't know what that is). Lots of piano, bass, acoustic rhythm guitars etc.

Tom


Tom, each year when a new synth comes out, the manufacturer tries as best they can to create sounds that are very "current" - so with EDM being such a big genre - AND - it being a synth driven genre, it's only natural (maybe even SUPERNATURAL!!!) that Roland would want to build a device that appeals to all the EDM wannabes :-)

The World Music Collection EXP (3 I think) has additional string instruments like you mention, most much better than the presets.

But, FWIW, synths have never handled acoustic stringed instruments in the guitar family very well becuase the way you play the instruments causes so many subtle variations it just nearly impossible to get all those nuances on a key-based instrument (I play both guitar and keyboards so am very familiar with this issue).

There is a Super Natural acoustic guitar part and if you go in to edit it it has things like strum speed (I think it might be the S1 or S2 buttons that do it).

I took this sound and put it on one of the chordal accompaniment things (or maybe the arpeggio) and got a pretty decent emulation of strumming - actually, the most realistic I've ever heard from a synth without going into a sequencer and doing a LOT of editing.

But I'd say the FA is definitely "EDM leaning". However, there are plenty of other sounds available especially with the EXPs.

It was funny because I put in the EXP 10 which is the Orchestra Collection, then I swapped it out for the World Collection and when I did I realized how few orchestral instruments there are in the FA - like only one or two plain solo violins, one viola, and things like that.

But I guess they figure if you're planning to do the epic hollywood film scoring, you'll load up the EXPs for the job.

This is why I didn't need EXP 01 - to me it just duplicates a lot of what is already there. EXP 02 (Keyboards) and 03 (that's World I think) add a lot of useful "rock band" type instruments, and EXP 10 adds a lot of orchestral instruments.

Right now I have EXP 02 and the World collection in mine, plus Synth Legends Pure which I feel rounds out this keyboard nicely - built in EDM sounds, good Keyboards beyond what it comes with (which are super good) and then more Guitars (which I need for a current project and the stock ones just weren't doing it) and then more "old school" synth sounds.

To me, the EDM type sounds will be clichéd in another couple of years - just like the "hits" my old D-5 had, and the "Rave" sounds my old Sound Canvas had (yet for some reason, these sounds STILL show up on modern instrument like the FA!).

But the "core" sounds will always be around. And the FA has enough of these - especially with the expansions - to make it really worthwhile.

So just because it's "geared toward" EDM and such, doesn't mean you have to use it that way. It can do a plain old piano just as good as the next keyboard. Just do like me and don't use the wickywickywubbywubby sounds!
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby Paul99 » 22:19, 5 October 2017

stevel wrote: Just do like me and don't use the wickywickywubbywubby sounds!


So that's what they are called? ;-)
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby tcastlejr » 19:08, 6 October 2017

Thank you everyone for posting. I appreciate the help and 'encouragement' regarding the FA. I'm not disappointed.. just a little lost :)

@stevel You said:
There is a Super Natural acoustic guitar part and if you go in to edit it it has things like strum speed (I think it might be the S1 or S2 buttons that do it).

I took this sound and put it on one of the chordal accompaniment things (or maybe the arpeggio) and got a pretty decent emulation of strumming - actually, the most realistic I've ever heard from a synth without going into a sequencer and doing a LOT of editing.


I was wondering if you'd elaborate on this. I too play the guitar so I'm rather picky about rhythm guitar... but if you found a solution that's even workable, I'd love to emulate it.

Again, thanks everyone.

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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby tcastlejr » 15:39, 9 October 2017

Or if anyone else knows how to do this... please feel free to post.

Thanks!
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby Skijumptoes » 09:15, 10 October 2017

Use the arpeggiator built in to the FA, and set the motif to 'phrase' mode, and simply pick one of the guitar presets (There's also variations of each preset too via the 'variation' control).

You can also combine with the chord memory feature on the FA to play one finger chords.
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby Lunar » 14:38, 10 October 2017

Also worth noting that the Chord Memory is velocity-sensitive. If Rolled Chord is turned on, it can be set to up, down or alternating and the harder the key is pressed, the faster the "roll", play softly and you get better separation between the notes. It's really designed for the pianos, but you can get some nice Pink Floyd-type atmospheric strums with it.
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Re: Which sax is this?

Postby tcastlejr » 20:19, 12 October 2017

Well... I wanted to pop in and say thanks for those of you that responded. I'm pretty lost still. I'm spending time reading the manual and watching youtube but I'm just not understanding what I need to do.

Maybe sometime in the future, stevel will have the time to post a step by step of what he referred to in his post. I pm'd him but he's probably too busy to bother. <shrug>

At any rate, I really do appreciate those that took time to reply... I apologize for my denseness.

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