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Fa06 vs Serum

Postby TragicBeatzs » 17:48, 29 April 2017

Slap me if this is a stupid question but hey a brotha gotta ask lol. I was wondering if there's a way to recreate those grungy gritty sounds that serum has with their different wave shapes. I was watching a video and I seen a guy using serum and he had this really crazy sounding bass growl in serum which probably didn't take too many changes to make but im new to sound design and I have no idea what to do and how to do these things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI__jb1fWyc

Theres the video of the sound. It happens within the first 10 seconds of the video. If someone could guide me into making a sound like that i would greatly appreciate it.
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Re: Fa06 vs Serum

Postby TragicBeatzs » 21:40, 30 April 2017

Lol guess those 113 people who read this didn't have anything to say
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Re: Fa06 vs Serum

Postby stevel » 23:19, 30 April 2017

TragicBeatzs wrote:Lol guess those 113 people who read this didn't have anything to say


Well, maybe because it's usually kind of silly to buy a synth for one sound. I'm sure many people do (especially a bread and butter sound like piano or Hammond).

Most synths can make any sound you want them to. However, certainly there are synths that use a particular type of synthesis that are either better at making certain types of sounds, or, at least, make sounds that all seem to share a particular quality. For example, FM synthesis has a particular quality to it that generally speaking, is noticeably different than the Subtractive synthesis of an old analog synth (like a Moog). So you can't make one really "sound like" the other, but you can get amazing variety within any given synth.

Today, most synths not only have a modern synthesis engine (which sometimes is specific, but often may include more than one type of synthesis) but they also tend to include all kinds of effects as well - which really can narrow the gap between one type of synthesis and another.

The FA can definitely make sounds like these. However, it can do so much more. So again it's kind of silly to want to buy it to try to recreate a sound you heard on a VST. If you're dying for that VST sound, go that route instead.

Furthermore, it's not really the sound itself, but the way it can be created - there are often multiple ways you can achieve the same sound - and your video describes how to get this particular effect (which I dare say is a fad on its way out and will be super dated in a year or two if not already - and buying synths that only do things that are dated can be an exercise in futility).

There are plenty of videos on you tube about basic synthesis and you can learn a lot from them. But it would really help to start from the beginning and learn waveshapes, then filters, then envelope generators, the modulation, etc. etc.
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Re: Fa06 vs Serum

Postby TragicBeatzs » 02:13, 1 May 2017

It's not that I bought a synth for 1 sound. Its just that I've been used to using Vst's with sounds already premade and me just making beats with those sounds. So for me to get a workstation and learn and work on something that foreign to me, its natural to ask questions as to how something from this synth can be done in this synth or if its possible. But I really appreciate the reply. I'll be diving deeper into the Fa
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Re: Fa06 vs Serum

Postby PugFace » 12:39, 2 May 2017

In fairness, the FA has two very powerful synth engines which are exceptionally versatile. They can ring modulate and cross modulate the oscillators which opens up more power than even analog synths. Even do this with pcm waves. It just takes time to get the right sound you want. The editing is very very similar to editing VSTs. One thing i found in my ventures with producing new sounds is you have to stick to your guns to get the sound you want because when i have not stuck to a plan and drifted off in finding new sounds by chance i didnt achieve my plan because the synth engines are so wonderful. I produced a new synth preset that emulated a classic Arp oddyssey lead sound last weekend which i got but it took half an hour of tweaks in the end. i used the hexachorus effect to get that thicker sound that the arp is so good at.

I will say i recommend you use the eq in the studio settings in editing because if you want a truly warm full sound then you have to make sure theres boost on the low frequencies and may be tinker with mid freqs too. Then the fa utterly shines and can rival the warmth of a moog analog. Many of the roland presets are utterly spoilt by the default eq settings i have found. Also you need to use the master compressor as without it the fa sounds utterly weedy.
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