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Controlling Studio Set Effects from DAW

Posted: 16:30, 16 May 2017
by corvax
Hi Everyone,
I have another silly question here. Trying to find how to control the send levels of Studio set effects (Reverb and Chorus) for an FA instrument track in Cubase. The Cubase's standard mixer has only the channel volume and pan controls. these don't appear to be in Automation tracks either (maybe I can't see them).
For example Cakewalk's mixer has two additional controls and I can set the amount of reverb and chorus for each channel same as I would do it in the FA's internal mixer. I am trying to find how I do this in the Cubase.
Thanks in advance!

Re: Controlling Studio Set Effects from DAW

Posted: 16:56, 16 May 2017
by Skijumptoes
You just automate (As you normally would) the Midi CC messages:-
CC91 = Reverb
CC93 = Chorus

But you're right, some DAW's support the standard Midi CC's for external instruments much better than others, Logic Pro for example, includes Volume, Pan, Chorus, Reverb, Filter Cutoff & Resonance/Frequency in the mixer view which is really handy for controlling all 16 parts on the FA.

Outside of that, you just use good old fashioned automation, unless there's something in cubase to add virtual controls for them like in Logic, i've not used it for a while though i'm afraid, so not much help on that front! :(

Re: Controlling Studio Set Effects from DAW

Posted: 18:59, 16 May 2017
by corvax
Skijumptoes wrote:You just automate (As you normally would) the Midi CC messages:-
CC91 = Reverb
CC93 = Chorus

But you're right, some DAW's support the standard Midi CC's for external instruments much better than others, Logic Pro for example, includes Volume, Pan, Chorus, Reverb, Filter Cutoff & Resonance/Frequency in the mixer view which is really handy for controlling all 16 parts on the FA.

Outside of that, you just use good old fashioned automation, unless there's something in cubase to add virtual controls for them like in Logic, i've not used it for a while though i'm afraid, so not much help on that front! :(
Thank you! Didn't realize that these are CCs. So I put them now into the Quick Controls section for the track and it worked. CC91 is reverb, but CC93 didn't want to be a chorus. Will experiment more. Thanks again!

Re: Controlling Studio Set Effects from DAW

Posted: 21:33, 16 May 2017
by Skijumptoes
Oh that quick controls is handy, nice.

And yes, you can get a list of the CC messages on the FA if you go to [MENU] > [SYSTEM] > [Knob].

Press enter on one of the assignable knobs and a list pops up with all the CC's, you can press exit button to cancel so you don't make any changes.

...You can also get to that screen by holding shift and turning one of the Assign 1-6 knobs on the sound modify panel too, As a side note: i usually have Assign 3/4 knobs set to Chorus/Reverb for each part, as it sits above the overall Chorus/Reverb levels and is therefore easy to remember. I tend to use Chorus as a delay however.

In the CC messages, There's also things like Attack/Release times on there too which is quite cool to modulate/automate on synth patches. Everything else needs SysEx to modulate which gets a little more complicated.