System-8 as midi controller

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System-8 as midi controller

Postby Manic » 16:44, 1 March 2017

Hi,

I'm wondering if it is possible to use my S8 as a general midi controller in my daw and using the sound engine simultaneously, but seperately. So I'd like to control my VSTi's with the S8 and control my S8 via a Midi Out plugin - which I know is possible. I would then like to also control this Midi Out plugin with the S8, but only when focussed/selected. The S8 parameters and notes should thus only be controlled via the Midi Out plugin, not directly by the S8 itself (otherwise I cant control another VSTi without changing parameters/playing the notes of the S8). So I can easily select the Midi plugin (=S8) or any VSTi and the S8 will control the corresponding synth.

Would be awesome if this is possible!
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Re: System-8 as midi controller

Postby Manic » 23:14, 1 March 2017

I'm facing this issue when using the S8 (or my S1m, same issue) as a midi controller: both Sustain and Release of the Amp envelope are sending increment/decrement values instead of absolute values like the other controls. I cannot link it to a controller in my DAW correctly..

Is there a way to change these messages?

Are you able to reproduce this issue in other DAWs?
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Re: System-8 as midi controller

Postby Manic » 15:21, 6 March 2017

Ok I reported this issue to Roland. Ill keep you informed.
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Re: System-8 as midi controller

Postby Manic » 11:02, 23 March 2017

Ok I managed to configure my setup to do what I explained in the first post! :)

Im still facing the midi issue with the amp envelope though, can anyone reproduce this in other DAWs?
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Re: System-8 as midi controller issue

Postby Manic » 12:26, 28 March 2017

Ok I found the following weird behaviour:

When I link a software parameter to the Amp Sustain/Release fader, while using auto detect/learn mode (in FL Studio), it picks a different Midi CC depending on the current position of the fader. So at 100%, it sends Midi CC 127 while at 0% it sends Midi CC 0. When I then move the fader, it makes alle linked parameters on the same midi channel increase/decrease (for sustain/release) when it reaches that certain point of the corresponding Midi CC. When it is at a different position than the position where it is linked, FL Studio does receive the messages, but thinks they are not linked to any parameter (because it's a different CC).

So instead of sending the same Midi CC all the time with various values, it sends various Midi CC messages with the same value, namely Increment +1 (sustain) or Decrement -1 (release).

I hope this makes sense to you.
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Re: System-8 as midi controller

Postby system 8 Beta User » 03:56, 17 April 2017

I'm facing this issue when using the S8 as a midi controller: both Sustain and Release of the Amp envelope are sending increment/decrement values instead of absolute values like the other controls. I cannot link it to a controller in my DAW correctly..

System 8 as midi controller very bad option! You can buy better Novation Launch Control XL :)

System 8 Layout is Great but no control, fader, Button for my own settings Midi CC.

OS update come on Roland....System Menu save control, fader, Button for my own settings Midi CC. !
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Re: System-8 as midi controller

Postby Manic » 20:56, 1 August 2017

I'm trying to configure my System-8 in a way that only midi CC messages are being sent to my DAW, so without notes. Does anyone know whether this is possible?
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