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Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby zombietactics » 21:35, 12 April 2017

A couple of notable online reviewers have made mention that Roland has been dropping hints at a "fully functional D-50 recreation on Roland Cloud" later this year.

I see this as a make-it break or break-it moment for Roland regarding System-8 support.

If they release a D-50 VST on Roland Cloud, but no plug-out for System-8 ... this strongly indicates that Roland either planned the System-8 poorly, or has abandoned the product so far as further plug-outs are concerned.

Alternately, if they can only support plugs which require no base of sample-snippets, releasing another analog recreation that time frame is a must, IMHO. That would indicate that Roland is at least attempting to support the product and realize its potential.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby Tom_1970 » 23:09, 12 April 2017

I think a recreation of the D-50 can be very interesting.
I had the VC-1 D-50 and that's the main reason I sometimes miss my VariOS.

However, I wonder if a D-50 plugout version for the System-8 is that interesting for me.
Although I think the System-8 is a great controller for the S8 and plugout engines, I doubt that it will be handy for the D-50.

Personally I would prefer a D-50 boutique version.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby SepticUnderground » 16:49, 13 April 2017

I dont see how a D50 could be used on a System8, totally different layout. All those partials etc.

Still love my VariOS+VC1 card....Sounds so ballsy.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby CesarsoundOne » 17:46, 13 April 2017

Well, as I know the D50 uses samples (besides LAS). I am not sure if S8 can load samples.

"By joining 8-bit PCM samples with "LAS" synth-generated sounds, the D-50 is capable of unique and complex sounds. The PCM samples contained the attack transients, while the rest of the sound came from the Linear Arithmatic Synth (LAS) section which sounds very analog, with subtractive-style synthesis and low-pass-resonant filters. Built-in chorus and (for the first time) digital reverb are also included for giving your sounds space and life! It also has a joystick controller for real-time timbre manipulation. The D-50 was great for new and non-acoustic, percussive, ethereal and beautiful pads & sounds."
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby runningman67 » 20:59, 13 April 2017

The D50 is a digital synth. ACB is designed to emulate analogue synths. So I can't imagine the D50 plugout happening.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby scottkahn » 22:06, 23 April 2017

I don't think Roland needs anything more to make or break the System-8. In one box now, even if you don't fill the third plug-out slot, you have three synths: a System-8, a Jupiter 8, and a Juno 106. Each of these sounds fantastic, and significantly different from one another. And, you can make splits/layers combining sounds from two of these at once.

The synth doesn't have to be more or do more to be a fantastic instrument and fantastic value as it stands right now. Now if only I could decide what I'd like to put in slot #3....

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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby Devnor » 20:16, 24 April 2017

A Prophet, Moog or Obie plugout would be preferable. At this stage, my interest level in the D-50 is close to zero.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby skinmechanic » 20:50, 24 April 2017

If Roland are to release anymore plugout's it will be the JX8, the JX3P boutique coding has already been written, it just needs tweaking to add 8 voices and change it to what the JX8 was, I think that will be coming.

As for the D50 agreed if there is a way to import samples into the System 8 it would happen. Maybe it can but just needs an upgrade like the Waldorf synths did.

One of the reasons I've kept my V-Synth XT is the D50 card built in, love it.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby system 8 Beta User » 00:02, 28 April 2017

Yes, V-Synth XT was higher quality, Roland to invest money and brains. Full Metal :)
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby runningman67 » 08:50, 28 April 2017

system 8 Beta User wrote:Yes, V-Synth XT was higher quality, Roland to invest money and brains. Full Metal :)


In your opinion.

I sold my V Synth. Didn't like it. Love my plastic green pile of crap.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby Manic » 07:39, 12 May 2017

I think this is pretty solid proof of the D50 coming as a plug-out for the S-8!
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby runningman67 » 09:47, 12 May 2017

Looks like we've backed a winner.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby andyr1960 » 09:55, 12 May 2017

Manic wrote:I think this is pretty solid proof of the D50 coming as a plug-out for the S-8!


"Legendary Series" only relates to SH-101, System 100, ProMars & SH-2 for the System 1 that can be used in the System 8 - they're all analogue emulations, nothing to do with later digital synths. The D50 would be impractical to show-horn into the System 8, although a VST/AU would be feasible, but if it's not designed for the System 8 then what's the future of the Plug-Out format?

I'm hoping for an expansion on the System-100, maybe the System-700. The Sys 8's upgraded DSPs are capable of doing something like that.
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby jerry_merry » 13:17, 12 May 2017

Not all the Cloud synths sit in the legendary category........

SO far it includes only the existing plugouts and the soundcanvas (which clearly will not run on a System 8)

Roland cloud are being quite clever with their words.

https://www.rolandcloud.com/instruments/legendary
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Re: Roland D-50 Plugout on the Horizon?

Postby runningman67 » 13:58, 12 May 2017

I think clarity on the S8 plugouts would be good. If they already know what they have in development surely it would be a great marketing ploy.
I have no interest in the Cloud service. Just what bespoke plugouts will be available for my S8.
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