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Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 22:40, 14 January 2018
by gypsymoth
Hi
I'm desperate to find a patch librarian for my System 8 - don't want to overwrite what's already there but don't want to lose my hard work when I switch the thing off.
A suggested solution has been to use the Roland Cloud System 8 VST. Fine. I've logged into cloud, opened the VST in Ableton and it appears in all its ugly glory
In Settings I've got MIDI Control Input System 8 System 8 CTRL etc (see attached), and the physical System 8 works fine from a midi point of view
But when I press 'GET', I get a message saying "MIDI Communication Failed"
It's driving me mental. Any ideas why this might be happening? Genuinely considering binning the S8 because its such a bad patch management system
Thanks
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 18:21, 15 January 2018
by papasan
Do you have a USB hub in the middle? I couldn't load a plugin with a USB hub attached. I had to directly connect the S-8 to the PC.
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 10:08, 16 January 2018
by gypsymoth
papasan wrote:Do you have a USB hub in the middle? I couldn't load a plugin with a USB hub attached. I had to directly connect the S-8 to the PC.
Hi. Yes I do. Tried going direct to my iMac the other day with no luck. What I might try is going direct AND choosing ‘System 8’ as a MIDI device rather than ‘SYSTEM 8 CTRL’
Thanks
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 05:32, 19 January 2018
by Picoronut
I do not use it. I want to know how I can do it. To make it available
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 15:44, 30 January 2018
by HP_filter
Wish I can offer some assitance but I too, am having the exact same issue. Maybe someone on the thread can help us with this.
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 16:29, 30 January 2018
by Manic
It is correct to set both the midi input and output to System-8 CTRL in the VSTi settings.
Just removing the hub should be sufficient.
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 23:10, 30 January 2018
by thartnett
Direct USB connection to computer
Click SETTING button.
Choose "SYSTEM-8 CTRL" for both MIDI CTRL Input and Output.
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 11:08, 31 January 2018
by Manic
Oh and DO NOT enable the System-8 CTRL as a midi device in your DAW
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 18:41, 31 January 2018
by rcmusic35
gypsymoth wrote:Hi
but don't want to lose my hard work when I switch the thing off.
Thanks
so the very first thing is to backup to a SD card. copy a copy of this backup on you PC. now you have 2 backups of your hard work. Now you can test the librarian without any risk....
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 14:24, 13 February 2018
by Happy
That's what you get when you abandon good old Sysex. SD cards, PC file copying and Cloud Lock-in.
Re: Trying and failing to use S8 VST as a Librarian. Help!
Posted: 13:03, 23 March 2018
by Morganix
gypsymoth wrote:Hi
In Settings I've got MIDI Control Input System 8 System 8 CTRL etc (see attached), and the physical System 8 works fine from a midi point of view
But when I press 'GET', I get a message saying "MIDI Communication Failed"
Thanks
There's a good chance you may get things to work out if you load the System 8 VST-plugin in the
Steinberg VST3PluginTestHost, as discussed here:
Plug-Out from Steinberg VST3PluginTestHost
Download and un-zip the
VST 3.6.9 Audio Plug-Ins SDK from
here, and install the
VST3PluginTestHost_x64.