Difference between 2080 and xp 80

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mirkos
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Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by mirkos »

Hello,

Please,I need quick info on this : Is there any difference between 2080 and xp 80 (except in keys ofcourse :)

Are those same engine,I mean,Is 2080 rack version of xp 80.

I want to buy one , and I have both options available.

Thanks.
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by nsheldon »

Hi mirkos.

Welcome to the Roland Clan.

The biggest differences between the XP-80 and JV-2080 (other than the sequencer and keyboard) are
  1. - The JV-2080 has 3 EFX processors where the XP-80 has only 1.
    - The JV-2080 has 8 SR-JV80 expansion slots where the XP-80 has 4.
    - The JV-2080 has a "Patch Finder" function that the XP-80 does not have.
    - The JV-2080 has a "Phrase Preview" function that the XP-80 doesn't have.
    - The JV-2080 has an additional Preset Bank E that the XP-80 doesn't have.
So the JV-2080 is a bit of an upgrade from the XP-80 if you don't need the keys or sequencer.

Regards,
Nathan
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

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Hello nathan,and thank you for your quick reply,I could't find this info on net.

Basically,I am buying this synth because of its pads (2080).

Does above means that I couldn't programs those pads on xp 80 (because of lack of EFX processors?).

Thanks again,
Best regards
Mirko
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

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Hi again.

No. You can use the same patches found in the JV-2080 in the XP-80. Even though the JV-2080 has 3 EFX processors, a Patch can only use 1 at a time. Patches from the JV-1010, JV-1080, JV-2080, XP-30, XP-50, XP-60, and XP-80 are all forward and backward compatible. Performances and Rhythm Kits are as well, though the additional EFX settings and the references to PR-E patches in the JV-2080 will be ignored in the other synths. The main advantage of having 3 EFX processors is for Performance mode so that different Parts can have different EFX settings.

Regards,
Nathan
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by mirkos »

Hello,and thanks once more for quick reply,it really means lot to me , because I need to deicide which one to buy today.

From your statement,I just can't treat those as two indetical synths - from sound programming knowledge fact that in performance mode I can have 3 different efx settings means lot to me.

Anyway,as I want sound of this synth (for some reason,I like this sound more than sound of my fantom xa that I sold),it seems that I will buy xp 80 AND jv 2080 :) For studio and for live gigs :)))))

Thanks nsheldon for your detailed explanation on subject !

Best regards
Mirko
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

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Hello again Mirko.

I'm glad I could help. Good luck in your XP-80 and JV-2080 purchasing.

Kind regards,
Nathan
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by Tansy Keatinge »

Hi Nathan!

You seem to know lots about the JV2080 and the XP80, so perhaps you can help me too!

I have a JV2080 (which I love!!) and I want to get a keyboard that does the same job!! I gather the best two are XP80 and XP30. What's the difference? I love the big screen of the 2080 (vs the small one of the 1080), and I enjoy creating complicated "performances", and I run 2 keyboards off my 2080 (on different midi channels).

Basically I would like to do the same thing off a keyboard (ie run a 2nd keyboard off it), and be able to create all the "patches" and "performances" across both keyboards, as I do from my 2080.

What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks!!
Tansy

PS I've thought about the Juno stage (as everyone keeps mentioning it!), but I'm not sure it will have all the programming ability that want. What do you think??
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by nsheldon »

Hi Tansy.

Unfortunately, in terms of Performance EFX capabilities in the Super JV synth line, there is no keyboard equivalent to the JV-2080. Both the XP-80 and XP-30 have only 1 EFX processor unlike the JV-2080's 3 EFX processors. The main differences that I can tell between the XP-80 and XP-30 are
  1. * XP-30 has all the same Preset patches as the JV-2080 where the XP-80 lacks bank E.
    * XP-30 has 3 built-in SR-JV80 expansion ROMs (Session, Orchestra, and Techno) where the XP-80 has none built-in.
    * XP-30 has 2 SR-JV80 expansion slots where the XP-80 has 4.
    * XP-30 has built-in MIDI serial interface for old-style serial connections to computers where the XP-80 does not. Both have the standard MIDI IN, OUT, and THRU jacks.
    * XP-30 has a SmartMedia slot that supports either 2 MB or 4 MB SmartMedia cards for user bank backups, etc. The XP-80 uses a standard 3.5" floppy drive.
    * XP-30 has a 2 line character display where the XP-80 has a full 320 x 80 pixel display.
So if you're going for the 3 EFX processors, stick with the JV-2080.

Regards,
Nathan
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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

Post by mirkos »

Just wanted to say thanks nsheldon. I purchased xp 80 and absolutely love this board ! Jv slipped this time,but hey,I will buy it in the future.

I want to ask one more question,about sounds,but I think I'll start new thread about these,somebody maybe will find it useful.

Thanks again on tips !

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Re: Difference between 2080 and xp 80

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Glad I could help Mirko.

Regards,
Nathan
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